Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

by DerekMoors in

for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

It’s a cult. Followers are conditioned on the premise that his work is so important and that he needs to be funded appropriately. This is where I first found Jabba the Hutt despicable… well, not entirely true, because I did see his real photo beforehand. Fleecing cult members on their way out for a new cause that is centred round one person is tantamount to pushing drugs outside a rehab clinic.

He’s another J.F. Rutherford - bestowing upon himself these grand titles and even had his own Beth Sarim planned in Istria. He even at one point tweeted out that he wanted to purchase a dilapidated hotel there with donations and renovate it for a supposed retreat and recovery centre for cult victims.

I strongly suspect his long term plan was to purchase the family home in Istria and deposit his family there. He would have either purchased or rented his own place in Zagreb for his “office” or “studio”. But it would have been his fuck-pad to meet hookers and online dates.

All paid for by your generous donations.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Speaking Croatian leaves him at a huge disadvantage. There are many nuances in languages one understands poorly that will go right over one’s head. Lloyd demands to be in complete control of every situation. I don’t doubt he can speak conversational Croatian after 15 years there but it must perturb him to the utmost degree that he will never be able to use his acerbic tongue in that language. His social media post in Croatian would read something like this:

“You! Marc Latham! To be a criminal in court case must turn into police then your money to me will be lost.”

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

In one of his begging videos stated that he was offered a job which led into his false dilemma that he might have to accept if donations didn’t improve. Well then? Donations have tanked since, so what about this job Lloyd said he was offered? Taking them up on it?

Easier explanation is that he was lying or exaggerating greatly. I can’t see him taking any job where his priorities were set by a benefactor, though I’d love to watch him refuse to work at any set schedule and constantly be taking two week long holidays when deadlines needed to be met. Whoever it was if they existed would quickly figure out how little he wants to actually put in the work.

The pattern generally has been that the more one knows Lloyd personally and how he operates, the less they like him. He has very few supporters left from the early days, if any.

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

by DerekMoors in

for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

There certainly are plenty of other paperbacks that cost more on the site. Can you explain?

I know I shouldn’t do this, but I am basing this off comments Lloyd had made at the time. His books are print on demand by Amazon, and he said something in his launch about how hard he worked on it and he was owed for all the time spent on it so he had priced it accordingly. You can evidently charge more, but generally people don’t want to spend that much on paperback. $29.99 USD is on the high end for print on demand and he had made a sarcastic comment to that effect when Amazon discounted it for a period of time. Think they bumped $10 off the price as some sort of promotion and he took offence because he wasn’t consulted.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The Lloyd Evans Doctrine: When a item of significance and importance to the exJW cause is out there, it is imperative to distribute this piece of intellectual property to exJWs who are in need of this "life saving work". Since Lloyd was charging the highest amount Amazon would allow even after clearing $21K in crowdfunding, he was being unreasonable. It was akin to "withholding anti-biotics in the midst of an epidemic".

What happened: Since the information contained within "The Reluctant Apostate" was crucial to saving lives, a PDF that was "not quite a bootleg" was derived from an early Kindle purchase of TRA. Copies of this file were shared and passed amongst those in need so they could take in this "nourishment" that would help them fully wake up from the manipulative power of the WT and/or Lloyd Evans.

So if you are short on funds, didn't bludgeon any seal cubs, and need the spiritual food Lloyd had provided in TRA, feel free to ask round for a copy. The exJW community had graciously compensated the writer to the tune of $21K, plus the royalties he gets from Amazon. So it belongs to the community more than him. It even "transcends" him.

Per the Lloyd Evans Doctrine, TRA exists as a free PDF.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Here’s the thing I’ve found to be true about Lloyd: he always minimises things that are detrimental to his interests. You saw it in his letters to his wife. You saw it when he managed to take several conflicting positions regarding the COC bootleg.

In the book he casually mentions that the time she caught him sexting wasn’t the first time. The impression is made that it was one other time. I don’t think that is accurate. This sounds like a long pattern of behaviour (they were married for almost two years) that she got fed up with.

The story about him shoving a letter of confession and resignation as an elder under the door of another elder is highly sus. He expressed disgust that it wasn’t the end of the matter, like he expected that the elder was going to throw up his hands and say “well that is too bad, Brother Evans has several online sexting relationships outside his marriage and no longer qualifies as an elder. Letter accepted, I will announce it next week at the KH”. Of course there was going to be a JC or at very least a series of shepherding calls.

In reality it was a much longer and complicated process than he reveals and the letter under the door story is a literary device - an allegory that he employed in order to avoid answering all those inconvenient questions. Dijana told people she had left him and fled to Croatia. This was also part of Marko’s statement.

But it was never told as such by him. She is a very private person who avoids conflict at all cost, and for some apparent reason, against his express wishes - chose a path that was destined to cause the most upheaval in their lives.

Makes sense only if she planned to leave him as it appears she did. Must have been something more involved than meaningless sexting. There was something real there, not limited to online contact.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

They weren't interested in having the great Lloyd show them the error of their ways, and then make their changes while shaking his hand and thanking him for his guidance.

This is precisely what Lloyd thought when the AAWA and JW Survey websites were launched. They both issued an invitation to the GB to meet and discuss the concerns raised by him and AAWA. GB won't even meet with traveling overseers and branch members about concerns unless they were specifically asked for by the GB. Yet he felt there was a chance they might meet with a group of apostates led by him.

I don't think he wanted to leave, he was forced out and for the last 14 or so years he has pursued a vendetta against the watchtower for daring to throw him out.

Everything I've heard about the entire situation leads me to agree with that. I believe he was perfectly content with being a JW elder so long as he could live his double life and having his misdeeds covered by his dad and the elders. In fact it is right there in his book - he got caught sexting and didn't want to tell the elders, proposing to his wife that they carry on like normal. Him and "Geoffrey" had a grudge match and he wasn't ready to let it go. Lloyd was still an elder but stripped of most privileges, and he was plotting to bring Geoffrey down.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

So.... 6 days ago Lloyd points his followers to this video, and so far there are only 1771 views, 81 likes and 21 comments?

I agree. I don't think people really care to hear about his shroom adventure contrary to what he had hoped. They've been round the mainstream for over 60 years now, and for 1000s of years in indigenous communities.

Is he going to smoke a joint on the next video and describe what he's feeling?

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The Saddest Thing About Tony Morris's Removal

by NotFormer in

i've mentioned before how i've wondered how tony morris must have felt when he was sacked.

yes, i know he's a rehensible human being who got served a healthy dose of karma, or, if you like, divine judgement.

to go from having all there is to have within the world he lived in, to where he is now; that's a long fall.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

What makes you think he had no friends? GB members are feted everywhere they went and likely has many people who know and would sympathise with him.

If the assertion is true that he was a hardliner dead-set against change, there are no shortage of old-timers whom he could confide in about how he fought tooth and nail against the new beard policy for example. He strikes me as someone with a huge mouth and would love to shoot it off within selected company.